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For a country laden with lots of unresolved high and low profile homicides, the need for better forensic models, better cooperations, and a seamless judicial system will expedite a closure for families. Even then that will demand a more deliberate involvement of communities, the indictment of culprits and engendering a culture of valuing human life and our approaches to justice. A conversation by activist Njoki Gachanja, state pathologist Johannssen Oduor, lawyer Kariuki Karanja, state legal advisor Emily Chweya, and police oversight director David Nderitu.